Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

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Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by Joozie » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:54 pm

Hello~
I've searched for this particular topic but could not find it. Maybe it is too obvious to even mention..
But I need an expert confirmation and some info on the topic.

So I just started kiting on my baby NT, and was going to level some other characters at the same time just to save some time.

My question before I do that is, is there a certain range where you have to stay within while the NT kites to get xp?
What I mean is, if you are very far away from the kiting NT, do you get the xp as a teammate?
Or as long as you are in the same instance or zone, you get xp?
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Re: Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by Saavick » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:20 am

You have to be within a certain range, just being in the same zone is not enough. The range is not very strict though, you can be at a safe enough distance to not risk overrunning your alts/friends with your kite and still get xp. Note that there is one range to receive full xp, one (wider) range to receive lower xp, and outside of this no xp at all.
Yalming up and flying up very high works too (high enough that your kite won't switch aggro to the yalms), but you might not want to buy yalms yet for low level alts.
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Re: Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by EDTA » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:31 am

I have 2 TL5 alts pretty much purely kited all the way by myself. Along the way I had plenty of opportunity to test out some things and I noticed that range seems to define the amount of xp you get... Had my toons flying either very high or just high enough to hopefully not get agro and it was quite a difference. I never heard somebody else state this though, so for now this is just a single experiment, that should be confirmed by somebody else. Worth to keep in mind though...
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Re: Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by Tarradax » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:53 am

Open your team window. See the HP/Nano bars of your team mates? Good. You're within optimal XP range. Don't see them? You're too far - XP gains are reduced/completely gone. It's that simple.
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Re: Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by Saavick » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:59 am

Visibility of the HP bar is not affected by vertical distance (i.e. up in the air) while Edta says it decreases XP? I don't know which of you is right btw, I'm just curious to find out :)
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Re: Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by Joozie » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:46 pm

Tarradax wrote:Open your team window. See the HP/Nano bars of your team mates? Good. You're within optimal XP range. Don't see them? You're too far - XP gains are reduced/completely gone. It's that simple.
ty everyone for your input :) Tarradax's explanation is simple to keep in mind.
Since I don't have yalms for the alts, I think I'll go ahead and put them somewhere i can see their bars but not too close to overrun them.
Gotta try it out and see how it goes.
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Post by Randomchance » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:43 pm

Back when i used to kite i was fairly certain that range affected xp fairly substantially. From memory it was something like 20% more xp for being on the kill as apposed to 50m+ away. I havent done any concrete tests, but i did seem to level faster with the nt on /follow and in the thick of the kills than above the kite out of shot range in a yalm.
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Re: Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by Tarradax » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:47 pm

Saavick wrote:Visibility of the HP bar is not affected by vertical distance (i.e. up in the air) while Edta says it decreases XP? I don't know which of you is right btw, I'm just curious to find out :)
I'd like confirmation to this, because I remember flying too high in a yalm from a team mate would make their stat bars disappear.
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Re: Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by Llie » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:00 pm

Tarradax wrote:Open your team window. See the HP/Nano bars of your team mates? Good. You're within optimal XP range. Don't see them? You're too far - XP gains are reduced/completely gone. It's that simple.
I use this method too, but with kiting its often difficult to always stay in range of the rest of the team.

Here's an example of what I do for PW borg kiting: I usually have my team sit on the mesa between the two borg camps as close to the edge of the mesa. After I have my big pull of borgs, I start making my circles such that one side of the circle is near the mesa and the whole team's HP/NP bars show up in my team window. I do let off nukes at any point in my circles, but I try to fire most of them off near the side of my circle where I'm closest to my team so when borgs die the team's XP is maximized. I sometimes will refrain from nuking for the other 3/4 of the circle and let my humidity extractors refill my nano a bit just so I can get back into range of my team to finish off some of the borgs.

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Re: Teammates out of range of xp when kiting?

Post by Zirkonium » Thu May 10, 2012 12:26 am

I'm 100% sure visibility of hp bars is NOT needed for maximum exp. However, it's a good idea to be around a spot where you get vision of exp bars if you would run in the direction of your alts for around 3-4 seconds with rs buff.

When you get too far exp gain is suddenly reduced. Beyond a certain distance you'll gain no more exp.

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