progression of Nukes for fast casting with good recharge

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progression of Nukes for fast casting with good recharge

Post by stardrow » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:52 pm

Hello i am a level 31 NT and am wondering what Nanos i should be reaching for. could some one provide a progression list of good nanos?

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Post by Randomchance » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:50 pm

This is always a good start: Auno NT nuke listing

Then there is always the nuke tables for simulating which nuke is better.
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Post by DocJones » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:34 am

Aaaand another Nuke Table Calculator...

Personally, i prefer this one, as it shows the Nano Resist value, too.
No good if you have a nuke with zillions of damage and a NR of 130%...
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Post by majdelta » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:22 pm

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Post by Woodlands » Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:10 am

Sorry for slight necro, I need help interpreting the table.

What's the "Oh No! (dmg)" mean at the last column?

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Circle of Winter (AE) [snipped] 420s (23,718)
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Post by EDTA » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:42 am

It's the time and damage done before you run out of nano. This is the reason to supply info about your HE, nanopool, cost reduction and such.

If I kite relative high-level dyna's for example I usually use the nuke that does most damage before I run out of nano instead of the nuke that does most DPS.
Another example: I used Blaze of Hephaeos for a while, but recently reached enough MC for tremor. I started using that, but noticed it drains much more nano. I was being spare with nano, not recasting my layers... and got killed by the borgs. I looked it up and tremor has a much smaller Oh No (dmg) value. After that I started using a combination of both: Blaze of Hepheaos for pulling and tremor for a lil more damage when running in circles if I have enough nano left. (On a side note: Tremor also has a very small range which is another huge disadvantage).
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Post by Tarradax » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:58 am

EDTA wrote:(On a side note: Tremor also has a very small range which is another huge disadvantage).
Tremor has a shorter range from which you can cast it, but that's negligible considering NT +Range nanos and the +Range NCU toy - The shorter cast range can be remedied with these. However, Tremor has a large AoE radius, something that you can't modify. Generally speaking, Tremor is better for bigger kites where you have more mobs and need to cover more ground with each cast.
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Post by EDTA » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:19 am

True, but I noticed I often got the message "target out of range".
A few notes:
*I only used "superior nano command" as +range buff so far since all other nukes cap 40m and the better range increaser's also come with extra nanocost (and froobs can run out of nano in contrary to sloobs :P). With this buff tremor only has 17m range while I'm used to 40m.
* I'm always short on NCU so I'm not using +range NCU tool (I do use nanocost and nano-init NCU tool). Again: sloobs seem to have more ncu+ save some ncu using composites so might work better for sloobs.
* For pulling: having 40m range comes in handy to pull mobs from all edges.
* If you have enough RS you can run small circles and stay close enough to cast tremor. So this is where I try to use tremor if I have enough nano.
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Post by Woodlands » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:49 am

Ah...I was thinking along those lines but wasn't too sure about that. Thanks for clearing that up!

Interesting discussion on the AOE nukes for kiting. I tried a few times and did horribly so I gave up (for now). Only a level 30 NT anyway. :D Not enough RS + Nano Init to instacast any decent AOEs.
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Post by MrCoffee » Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:31 pm

Traxxor wrote:Ah...I was thinking along those lines but wasn't too sure about that. Thanks for clearing that up!

Interesting discussion on the AOE nukes for kiting. I tried a few times and did horribly so I gave up (for now). Only a level 30 NT anyway. :D Not enough RS + Nano Init to instacast any decent AOEs.
Oh.. I beg to differ.. :]

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Post by Woodlands » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:49 pm

Aha! Will try it out when I have absolutely nothing better to do (I'm not a big fan of major twinking).

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